Good quality plant and amazing growth. I bought a 7 gallon from Premier Growers about 8 months ago and it's already outgrowing the 25 gallon pot I moved it into. Was it grown from a seed made by nature or by manual cross pollination? Here is the palm, looks very healthy aside from the obvious cold spots on the old fronds.
If this one produces seed, you should be able to tell if they have a chance.. While the largest would flower & produce seed often, most seed i'd collect were empty or basically liquid when opened. The only mature ( and flowering /seeding ) specimens i'm currently familiar with are those in Kopsick's collection. Floribunda had some f2 foxy ladies a while ago. You did not get a palm that was basically bare root and a palm you specifically said you did not want!!! You got an amazing holy grail palm at a discount price.
- They can be solid green without any variegation.
- The green form tends to perform better in full all day sun than the variegated which burns more easily especially in hot dry sun.
- They say the foxy lady is a rocket but the growth rate appears to be the same as seedlings.
- Some died at seedling stage, and others just died a slow death, even though they were all grown in shade.
- Are they the first two foxy ladies cultivated???
- It's a bad combination for the palm to deal with root trauma and to fight full scorching sun at the same time.
Palm Tree Jim
Lots of people have been sold green 'foxy lady' palms in the past, that eventually turn out growing up into standard foxtails. When you germinated the seeds of the foxy lady and the foxtail did you plant them at the same time? My big green one enjoys full sun however and is the fastest growing palm in my landscape and I have hundreds of palms in the ground. These foxy lady palms are thirsty and it's nearly impossible to overwater them. The foxtails have been grown in some shade, and the foxyladies have been growing in at least 1/2 day Sun.
- Actually,light variegation is not a bad thing.
- I didn't notice it until after the seedling got bigger...
- I wonder if the very elongated seed has more Veitchia traits and the more rounded F2 seed has the foxtail traits?
- I never said the palm looked bad I said it was basically bare root and variegated which I specifically said I didn’t want!!!
- Or is there anyone on this forum growing the legendary tree?
- These looked to be well grown.
If you meant the spear has not moved at all, then your palm was in trouble from day one. You said, "I marked the spear the day it was delivered, and there has been zero growth." Repeat the kelp extract/ water mix in 2 weeks. I was advised by the seller to apply a kelp extract/ water mix, then heavy water every other day, with superthrive/ water every five days. I marked the spear the day it was delivered, and there has been zero growth (I wouldn't be concerned with that at this point, except that the leaf has now snapped) Yes the Veitchia can and has been the host, I had one growing at my former residence , it looks like a Veitchia, with yellowish petioles.
If so did they sprout around the same time frame? If there are variegated foxladies, they are obvious. What I have noticed is that the width of the foxylady leaves tend to be a little wider and a little more dark hairs on the leaf bases. @here does anyone have Foxy Lady seed they would like to sell? Wanting to put them out but not if they’re not a true hybrid. Hybrids seem to have a higher rate of growth for some reason.
What is the difference between Foxtail & Foxylady seedlings?
I have 6 mature foxy ladies and all but 2 are variegated. That is how you can tell the difference between foxtail and Foxy Lady hybrid. Note the smooth texture of the seed fiber compared to a course fiber foxtail. I do not grow foxtails, so there could not be a mix up there. I have plenty of foxtails and Veitchia arecina in the yard so maybe it did a cross back with one of them to become fertile? Yeah I had one sprout a while back but had some irrigation issues to my potted plants in my absence and it ended up drying out and dying.
Steve the palmreader
There is a slight blonde strip but that why i asked is the green form Always green or does it have. Appears to be the green form. Never observed even hints of varigation on any of the solid green specimens i have seen in both FL. Now correct me if I am wrong is it true that even the green ones will spit out some variation in its life span ? There is a variegated one on ebay right now ends in 21 hours Yup, and that’s why 100% green go for more $$
PalmMom007
Exactly I believe even the green form has some at some point I saw a mature green form produce some variation. Did not notice the variegation earlier but as Jim pointed out, on the lower leaf there it is. Yeah I could tell it is 100% green as well. If anyone can find a pic of a small full green please
foxy gold post to show the difference thank you Few variegated fronds .....
The seed looks pretty elongated, so I would think it would have a lot of Vetchia characteristics. Maybe something I might try to track as time goes on. Look how elongated this viable F2 seed is, that I picked up yesterday.
From the pic seems like your palm flew across the country unharmed. Actually,light variegation is not a bad thing. Premier has sargentii seedlings and 7gal vinifera but they don’t know how to ship. I am lousy at keeping seedlings alive let alone sargentii seedlings!
The green form tends to perform better in full all day sun than the variegated which burns more easily especially in hot dry sun. For the past few months, specimens are in the 1gal pot size, with the palm being around a 1’ in height, most are variegated form. Both are superbly grown, just needs to planted to adapt to So Cal conditions and watering. A potted palm, drought tolerant or not, needs watering much more often than one in the ground that's established. It's a bad combination for the palm to deal with root trauma and to fight full scorching sun at the same time. I have 2 smaller foxys, and they were sensitive to repotting; it stunted their growth for several months.
That thing is so root bound that you need to do slow drip like they do or just plant it. Most likely a resold Rancho Soledad plant or a Florida import from Sparkman. But if there is actually "zero" movement, your palm is probably already dead. Even in the slowest sickliest palm, you should notice some movement of the spear - even 1/8 of an inch in a week assures that your palm is still alive.
I do need to get better on checking my palm talk tho! Purchased several years ago as a seedling from a breeder in Florida. Where did that palm originate? I hope/expect some new batches to hit the market sometime soon.
Do you know if this palm was field grown, dug up, and then placed in its pot? Also the variegation seems to be a morphological example of hybrid decline as the greens show hybrid vigor. The seeds that Mike Evans germinated were F2, there is no guarantee they will be Wodveitchias. Foxtails that I've grown all seem to throw one spear and sit for a long time (weeks to months), at which point they resume normal growth. Pretty sure they keep their variegation, at this stage we can already see the difference between the variegated lot and the greenies. I had about 7 seeds so I just planted them all, one popped.
